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Jehovah's Witness] Church elders sentenced to 15 years for $6 million theft Tuesday, May 13, 2003
Deer Lodge City Montana.
Two Jehovah's Witness church elders who fleeced a 100-year-old Deer Lodge woman out of her life savings and family ranch were sentenced Monday to 25 years in prison with 10 suspended.
District Judge Ted Mizner; sentenced ( Jehovas Vidner)Darryl Willis, 64, of Helena, and Dale Erickson, 54, of Missoula, in what prosecutors called the biggest theft case in Montana history.
The men - who pleaded guilty to conspiracy, theft and securities fraud - were ordered to pay $6.5 million in restitution.
The thefts included taking a nearly $400,000 brokerage fee for illegally and secretly selling Una Anderson's $5.3 million Powell County ranch for $4 million.
More than $2 million went to finance a failed effort to establish Montana's first foreign capital depository, which would offer a place for the super-rich to stash their money similar to Swiss-style or offshore banks.
Mizner said the sentence represents a "small measure of justice" for Anderson, whose life savings and 6,400-acre family ranch were lost in a befriend-and-betray scheme that played out from 1995 to 2002.
The men used a complex system of trusts and interlocking companies to steal Anderson's money while living in expensive homes, driving luxury cars and traveling extensively, court records said.
Anderson, who is now 101, said she is glad that justice was served, but is sad for the men who made poor decisions and ruined their lives.
"It's sad to think of those two young people," she said of Erickson and Willis. "My life has been good, but it's almost over. They had everything ahead of them."
During the sentencing hearing, family members and a social worker for Adult Protective Services, Janel Pliley, asked the court to impose the maximum sentence allowed by law _ which would have totaled 40 years.
Kelson Colbo, whose grandfather was Una Anderson's first cousin, said Erickson and Willis used Anderson's trust with the church as leverage to convince her to trust them with her finances.
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....they were introduced to Anderson — who was a church member for more than 50 years — by a mutual friend from the Deer Lodge group ( Jehovas Vidner). That introduction led to an elaborate befriend-and-betray scheme spanning several years, court records show.
Those records say Willis and Erickson convinced Anderson that entrusting to them the fortune she amassed during years of hard ranch work and frugal living would be "more in line with her spiritual beliefs."
As time went by, Anderson was influenced by other church members who became progressively more involved and controlling in her care and daily life, records show.
During a sentencing hearing earlier this month, Janel Pliley, an Adult Protective Services social worker, told the court that Anderson's finances, activities and associations were closely monitored by several church members
( Jehovas Vidner ældste) who caused a division between Anderson and her family members.
"She was under watch 24 hours a day," Pliley told the court. "She was basically held prisoner in her own house. "
Pliley reported the case to Powell County authorities in September 2001 after family members noticed suspicious goings-on during visits to Anderson's home.
(Mike) Murphy ( Jehovas Vidner ældste) said Willis and Erickson's misuse of their positions of trust as elders does not reflect on or involve other church members. Members of the congregation who cared for Anderson did so with the best of intentions, and that a lack of communication between Anderson's family and the church led to a lack of trust. He said the actions of Willis and Erickson breached the family's trust in the church in general.
Sarah Kelson, Anderson's niece who lives with and cares for her, sees things differently ( naturligvis). She says church people literally ran family members off at Anderson's modest one-story home on the outskirts of town when they tried to visit.
"There certainly was a lack of trust," Kelson said Wednesday. "But there was no lack of communication. (Murphy Jehovas Vidner ældste) himself ordered me out of this house. He told me I should leave and the church would take care of everything."
Murphy ( Jehovas Vidner ældste)explained that the church members support the sentencing of the two men, and that Jehovah's Witnesses "never shield anyone from prosecution." (det er også en løgn)

"There is no justification for what those men did," Murphy ( Jehovas Vidner ældste)said. "We feel horrible about what has happened to Una and we feel horrible about what has happened to her family. They lost their heritage as well as their money." ( ja, de føler beklagelse over at det overhovedet blev ” opdaget” og ellers skider de blot på folk)
Murphy ( Jehovas Vidner)said members are also distraught over the loss of Anderson's companionship.
"She has very close friends in the Deer Lodge congregation who still consider her close friends," Murphy ( Jehovas Vidner ældste) said. "Now they are not able to associate with her because of what these two men did."( det er også en løgn)
Again, Kelson offers a different perspective. "I'm sure they are distraught," Kelson said Wednesday. "They were all sucking money off of her. The piggy bank closed."
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A jehovah's Witnesss elder was ordered by a federal judge to pay more than $4.7 million in restitution to almost 50 victims of a Ponzi-like con game – many of them elderly members of his own congregation. (updated 03/18/2003)
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Enoch...

Bare et spørgsmål.....hvor har du kopieret dette fra?
Undgå indlæg der indeholder kopieret materiale.
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Kære Kajsa,
Hvorfor spørger du mig? Du kender mig og ved, at jeg udelukkende skriver mine indlæg selv. Kun i visse sammenhæng bruger jeg kilde materiale. Ja, jeg har afskrevet ( kopieret) dette debatindlæg og indsendt det.
Jeg tænker på, at det åbenbart ikke var noget problem set i lyset af ftg, indlæg kopieret og indsendt af ftg de sidste 7 dage. ( syv dage, fra 4. til 10.Oktober)
Jeg forespurgte på redaktionen om det var i orden og da jeg ikke fik noget svar og ingen reaktion gik jeg ud fra, at det var i orden. Altså , at ftg kunne indsende disse kopierede megaindlæg. ( som han plejer)
Hans hensigt var åbenbart, at formidle nogle oplysninger fra andre steder, som han kender til og det er den politik han bruger her på debatten.
Han skriver meget sjældent noget selv. Derimod er mine indlæg, som sagt, mine egne med denne undtagelse. Jeg har før kopieret ” sager” for ikke, at det skulle være mine ord; sådan påstand mod påstand, da man ikke kan sige noget til Jehovas Vidner og blive troet. Alt hvad andre skriver ” mod” Jehovas Vidner er iflg. Jehovas Vidner pr. definition løgn. Men i virkelighedernes verden er det den rene sandhed.
Derfor kræver det en form for ” bevis”, at det forholder sig sådan; ellers kan man ikke føre en debat med Jehovas Vidner. Derfor dette kopimateriale som fundament for debatten.
Så det var kun til alm. Oplysning.
Så til din oplysning vil jeg her henvise til ftg kopierede indlæg ud af mange andre, som det åbenbart ikke er noget problem med.
Jeg vil så sige til dig, at jeg vil tage din kommentar til efterretning fremover og selv afskrive det jeg ønsker at fremlægge som ” bevise”. Er det OK med dig og i overensstemmelse med ” reglerne”?
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Enoch

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http://debat.sol.dk/show.fcgi?category=6&conference=217&posting=377257 Skrevet af Anonym , 5.okt.2005, kl.11:54
Nej, skrevet af ftg.
Historien er oversat, Skrevet af ftg http://profil.sol.dk/ftghttp://profil.sol.dk/ftg, 5.okt.2005, kl.12:34
Den er blevet indrykket af mig, ftg.
http://debat.sol.dk/show.fcgi?category=6&conference=217&posting=377909 Skrevet af Costa Koullapis , 5.okt.2005, kl.18:45
ikke skrevet af Costa Koullapis, men af ftg.
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