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Why does the Jehovah's Witness' bible the NWT remove all of these scriptures?
THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS "BIBLE"
"New World Translation" DELETES WHOLE VERSES!
The Only Bible the Jehovah's Witnesses will trust! The Bible only Jehovah's Witnesses would trust!
Based on the JEHOVAH'S WITNESS "New World Translation", Revised 1984 edition.

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the "New World Translation"
The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"--whether in the text or placed in an appendix...OVER 47 in the New Testament alone ! ! !
A TYPICAL EXAMPLE (Matthew 18):
10. See to it that you men do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you, That their angels in heaven always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. 11. -----
12. "What do you think? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astrayed, will he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? ("New World Translation", Revised 1984 edition.)
What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation":

Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed. What arethe Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."

Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."

Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."

Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text in an appendix (of sorts) with this detracting statement: "Some late manuscripts and versions contain a short conclusion after Mark 16:8, as follows] (New World Translation, Revised 1984 edition)
Luke 1:28 - Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "blessed art thou among women"
Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"

John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

Jn. 7:53- 8:11 (all 12 verses) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text and place it at the bottom of the page in a appendix (of sorts) with this detracting statement: "Manuscripts NBSYS omit verses 53 to chapter 8, verse 11, which read ( with some variations in the various Greek texts and versions) as follows:"

Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."

Act 24:6-8 -- Vitally important phrases (from verses 6,8) and all of verse 7 COMPLETELY removed. "and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Sysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, commanding his accusers to come unto thee:"

Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."
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What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation" :
Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation,.. Erroneous...pernicious...reprehensible.. If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature)

Dr. William Barclay, a leading Greek scholar, said "it is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

British scholar H.H. Rowley stated, "From beginning to end this volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated....Well, as a backdrop, I was disturbed because they (Watchtower) had misquoted me in support of their translation." (These words were excerpted from the tape, "Martin and Julius Mantey on The New World Translation", Mantey is quoted on pages 1158-1159 of the Kingdom interlinear Translation)

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Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

Colossians 1:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and the Lord Jesus Christ"

Colossians 2:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and of the Father, and"

I John 5:13 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God"

Rev 1:11 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and,"

Rev 2:15 -- important phrase COMPLETELY removed "which thing I hate"

Rev 21:24 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "of them which are saved"

I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. In the Jehovah's Witness "New World Translation" it says,
kilde http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090507093419AA5ZCTc

Det er religion. Og i religion kan man tro og gøre lige som man lyster.
Hvis nogen f eks påstår at gud er ondkabens fyrste, at Jesus er Helvedes vogter og at helligånden er helvedes fyrbøder, så kan de have lige så meget ret. Hvis nogen påstår at frelsen kommer gennem Lysets Engel Satan, Lucifer, Abaddon, Lilith, Belzebul, Molok og Quetzalcoatl, så kan de meget vel ha' ret. Der er ingen der kan vide det. Derfor er der frit spil for enhver kreativitet og vi kalder det derfor kunstnerisk ufoldelse.

og pårdutter folk en mening de ikke rigtigt har, og det er vel lige så gral som de misforstår dig ;)
der er fundamenter i alle former for tro, og det er efter disse fundamenter man kan debatere efter.
det du hentyder til er egen fortolkninger, og så er vi henne i noget helt andet.
men du har ret i at det stadig er tro, men ikke på biblen, og det er jo også min pointe ;)
men det er jo ikke ens betydende med at alle troende skal smides ned i den samme boks som jv, for det syndes jeg bestemt ikke at de skal ;)

Det er religion. Og i religion kan man tro og gøre lige som man lyster.
Hvis nogen f eks påstår at gud er ondkabens fyrste, at Jesus er Helvedes vogter og at helligånden er helvedes fyrbøder, så kan de have lige så meget ret. Hvis nogen påstår at frelsen kommer gennem Lysets Engel Satan, Lucifer, Abaddon, Lilith, Belzebul, Molok og Quetzalcoatl, så kan de meget vel ha' ret. Der er ingen der kan vide det. Derfor er der frit spil for enhver kreativitet og vi kalder det derfor kunstnerisk ufoldelse.

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. . . har sandsynligvis gjort det rigtige, og fjernet de falske vers der er opstået i de første århundreder.
Allerede i AD350±, ved kopieringen til det der bliver verdenskendt som Codex Sinaiticus, fandt man ud af at der var indsat forfalskninger i Bibelen om det er alle de "manglende" vers ved jeg ikke, men er det ikke alle, så er det dog en stor del af dem - Og her er det så De Kristne Bibeler der har et forklaringsproblem, og NWT/NVO der har, om ikke 100% ret, kan jeg ikke udtale mig om, men for en stor dels vedkommende.
jalmar

har jeg ladet mig fortælle, og det skal da nok passe.
jeg fandt en liste over vers de har fjernet her.
Why does the Jehovah's Witness' bible the NWT remove all of these scriptures?
THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS "BIBLE"
"New World Translation" DELETES WHOLE VERSES!
The Only Bible the Jehovah's Witnesses will trust! The Bible only Jehovah's Witnesses would trust!
Based on the JEHOVAH'S WITNESS "New World Translation", Revised 1984 edition.

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the "New World Translation"
The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"--whether in the text or placed in an appendix...OVER 47 in the New Testament alone ! ! !
A TYPICAL EXAMPLE (Matthew 18):
10. See to it that you men do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you, That their angels in heaven always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. 11. -----
12. "What do you think? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astrayed, will he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? ("New World Translation", Revised 1984 edition.)
What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation":

Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed. What arethe Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."

Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."

Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."

Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text in an appendix (of sorts) with this detracting statement: "Some late manuscripts and versions contain a short conclusion after Mark 16:8, as follows] (New World Translation, Revised 1984 edition)
Luke 1:28 - Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "blessed art thou among women"
Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"

John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

Jn. 7:53- 8:11 (all 12 verses) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text and place it at the bottom of the page in a appendix (of sorts) with this detracting statement: "Manuscripts NBSYS omit verses 53 to chapter 8, verse 11, which read ( with some variations in the various Greek texts and versions) as follows:"

Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."

Act 24:6-8 -- Vitally important phrases (from verses 6,8) and all of verse 7 COMPLETELY removed. "and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Sysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, commanding his accusers to come unto thee:"

Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."
3 years ago Report Abuse
Additional Details
What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation" :
Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation,.. Erroneous...pernicious...reprehensible.. If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature)

Dr. William Barclay, a leading Greek scholar, said "it is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

British scholar H.H. Rowley stated, "From beginning to end this volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated....Well, as a backdrop, I was disturbed because they (Watchtower) had misquoted me in support of their translation." (These words were excerpted from the tape, "Martin and Julius Mantey on The New World Translation", Mantey is quoted on pages 1158-1159 of the Kingdom interlinear Translation)

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3 years ago
Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

Colossians 1:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and the Lord Jesus Christ"

Colossians 2:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and of the Father, and"

I John 5:13 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God"

Rev 1:11 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and,"

Rev 2:15 -- important phrase COMPLETELY removed "which thing I hate"

Rev 21:24 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "of them which are saved"

I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. In the Jehovah's Witness "New World Translation" it says,
kilde http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090507093419AA5ZCTc

Sveland har postet nedenstående, og når jeg går ind på det link han henviser til, hæfter jeg med ved det efterfølgende svar:

The Watchtower like many groups claiming Christianity have used the manuscripts of Westcott and Hort plus derivatives of Nestle-Aland.
Using 'works' such as these and errant textual criticisms several groups not just the Watchtower has been able to remove reference to the deity of Jesus and reword to make the Word of God homogenized in a way for Universalism. The NIV is a prime example of this pasteurization.
Nestle-Aland is a gnostically twisted variation. Westcott and Hort were antiChristian spiritists. Anyone with a yearn for truth and God can find this out for themselves.
Another manuscript used is Vatican Manuscript, No. 1209. Careful examination shows there is error in this 'work'. The church in Rome may have pulled it from the trashcan as 'they' have for non-RCs before.[/quote]
Når jeg tænker på hvordan jehovas vidner ønsker at fremstå, hvordan kan jehovas vidner så forsvare at man bruger oversættelser af "antiChristian spiritists" og "a gnostically twisted variation"?
Det forstår jeg ikke! Vil et jehovas vidner forklare mig dette?

[quote="sveland" post=2566006]har jeg ladet mig fortælle, og det skal da nok passe.
jeg fandt en liste over vers de har fjernet her.
Why does the Jehovah's Witness' bible the NWT remove all of these scriptures?
THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS "BIBLE"
"New World Translation" DELETES WHOLE VERSES!
The Only Bible the Jehovah's Witnesses will trust! The Bible only Jehovah's Witnesses would trust!
Based on the JEHOVAH'S WITNESS "New World Translation", Revised 1984 edition.

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the "New World Translation"
The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"--whether in the text or placed in an appendix...OVER 47 in the New Testament alone ! ! !
A TYPICAL EXAMPLE (Matthew 18):
10. See to it that you men do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you, That their angels in heaven always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. 11. -----
12. "What do you think? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astrayed, will he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? ("New World Translation", Revised 1984 edition.)
What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation":

Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed. What arethe Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."

Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."

Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."

Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text in an appendix (of sorts) with this detracting statement: "Some late manuscripts and versions contain a short conclusion after Mark 16:8, as follows] (New World Translation, Revised 1984 edition)
Luke 1:28 - Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "blessed art thou among women"
Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"

John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

Jn. 7:53- 8:11 (all 12 verses) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text and place it at the bottom of the page in a appendix (of sorts) with this detracting statement: "Manuscripts NBSYS omit verses 53 to chapter 8, verse 11, which read ( with some variations in the various Greek texts and versions) as follows:"

Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."

Act 24:6-8 -- Vitally important phrases (from verses 6,8) and all of verse 7 COMPLETELY removed. "and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Sysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, commanding his accusers to come unto thee:"

Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."
3 years ago Report Abuse
Additional Details
What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation" :
Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation,.. Erroneous...pernicious...reprehensible.. If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature)

Dr. William Barclay, a leading Greek scholar, said "it is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

British scholar H.H. Rowley stated, "From beginning to end this volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated....Well, as a backdrop, I was disturbed because they (Watchtower) had misquoted me in support of their translation." (These words were excerpted from the tape, "Martin and Julius Mantey on The New World Translation", Mantey is quoted on pages 1158-1159 of the Kingdom interlinear Translation)

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3 years ago
Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
"The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

Colossians 1:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and the Lord Jesus Christ"

Colossians 2:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and of the Father, and"

I John 5:13 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God"

Rev 1:11 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and,"

Rev 2:15 -- important phrase COMPLETELY removed "which thing I hate"

Rev 21:24 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "of them which are saved"

I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. In the Jehovah's Witness "New World Translation" it says,
kilde http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090507093419AA5ZCTc

har jeg ladet mig fortælle, og det skal da nok passe.
jeg fandt en liste over vers de har fjernet her.

Det i orden. Vi har med religion at gøre, og i religion er der frit slag.
Jeg har selv en Bibel, og der har jeg også, ikke alene fjernet vers, men både hele bøger og hele kapitler, + at jeg i stor stil har omskrevet det resterende. Desuden har jeg tilføjet nogle vers, kapitler og bøger, hvoraf jeg har skrevet det meste selv, men også tilføjet nogle apokryfer og psedepigrafer. Altsammen ud fra hvad jeg synes bedre om. F eks har jeg tilføjet nogle dunkle passager der antyder at Gud er en firenighed. Intet odiøst i at gøre det, og min bibel er præcis lige så sand og lødig som enhver anden Bibel.